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Making Sense with Sam Harris

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Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2016

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Sam Harris talks to Omer Aziz about Islam, Islamism, free speech, and related topics.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're

0:12.1

hearing this, you are not currently on our subscriber feed and will only be hearing

0:16.2

the first part of this conversation. In order to access full episodes of the Making Sense

0:20.7

Podcast, you'll need to subscribe at samharis.org. There you'll find our private RSS feed

0:26.1

to add to your favorite pod catcher, along with other subscriber-only content. We don't run ads

0:31.2

on the podcast, and therefore it's made possible entirely through the support of our subscribers.

0:35.8

So if you enjoy what we're doing here, please consider becoming one.

0:46.8

Okay, well I'm not going to do what I said I wouldn't do and release the whole conversation I had

0:52.2

with Omar Aziz. Now I like to take a few minutes to explain why I've decided to do this and provide

0:58.4

some context to the conversation itself. First, why have I changed my mind? As I said before,

1:04.4

I didn't want to release this podcast because I thought it was a terrible conversation.

1:08.9

And terrible in ways that were not actually interesting. I was attempting something with Omar

1:13.7

that he wasn't up to. And I failed repeatedly to get the conversation on track. So it was a failure

1:21.0

on both our parts to have a productive conversation. And I just felt that broadcasting this failure

1:27.1

wouldn't be good for anyone, and that listeners would find it incredibly frustrating.

1:32.2

But I've received an extraordinary amount of pressure, both well-intentioned and not,

1:36.5

to release this podcast in response to the cries of censorship I heard from Omar and Glenn Greenwald

1:42.0

and a wide range of silly people. And this pressure has come not merely from the silly themselves,

1:48.5

but from my actual supporters who say that my not releasing the podcast is making the job of defending

1:53.8

me much more difficult than it needs to be. According to many of you, even though I told Omar in

1:59.6

advance that I wouldn't release the podcast if I thought our conversation had been a total waste of

2:04.4

time, my not releasing it is too easily spun as my hiding something, and incredibly as my

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