What's up everyone? How's it going? It is Modern Craftsman Monday. It's not often I get to say that. But today you have me and you have our

guest. Nick was running late. We were going to rebook and I was like, you know what?

I want to go ahead with this I want to get this done so we'll have to get this guest back on some other time to record with Nick but

for me it's just me having a conversation with Ryan Smith.

You guys may know him as roof slayer on Instagram.

He also has a website that is roofcutters.com if you want to order a roof he sells and will pre-cut and ship a roof to you to your framing contractor

We talk a little bit about that, this podcast, what that looks like,

why you would hire somebody or pay a little bit of a premium to get that done by him.

All checks out and makes sense to me.

We get into his background a little bit.

Can't play Polly's barking during my intro.

Get into his background a little bit, how he got into the industry, how he

navigated the industry, and then conversation led to a bunch of struggles that he has with the

industry and framing as a trade in general and a lot of

pushback he's gotten from builders that he works with clients that he's worked

with that he feels he's often getting squeezed as the framing contractor and why it's important

to spend the money on a quality framing contractor

and not waste their time and not burn bridges

and afford them the budget and the time

to be able to execute the best that they can.

And he's not trying to sell you know some absolute supreme level product that nobody else can touch

He's looking to compete and turn over a job that's as close to perfect as framing needs to be and he still struggles with that

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