Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

So I was at a conference a while ago and I was giving my presentation on why we're Catholic

and I walked down from the podium and I was kind of walking out to the book signing table

and there was a guy who came up to approach me and he was smiling but he was kind of a

big sort of burly guy, had like the big beer going on and he walks up to me and he says,

Hey, there are you young man. I said, yes, sir, I got a question for you.

And I'm like, okay, so you're all into the Catholic stuff, right?

I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes, all right, here's my question for you.

Where is purgatory in the Bible?

And I think it's always funny. I hear this one and this is the classic question,

the classic objection that we get.

And just the way the guy articulated to me as if like this was the silver bullet that would

just like shred my Catholicism.

And so I started to engage him in a bit of dialogue and I walked him over to our book

signing table and gave him a copy of one of my books and prayed that would do him some good.

So it got me thinking that this is one of the issues that comes up a lot in dialogue

between Catholics and Protestants, the issue of purgatory.

And always as amazed me that it comes up a lot and that it can be very controversial

to a lot of people. So I thought today would be fun.

I wanted to bring in someone who's been doing a lot of work on this subject.

He's currently finishing up.

I think he has finished actually a new book on purgatory,

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