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314. What Does a C.E.O. Actually Do?

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πŸ—“οΈ 18 January 2018

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

They're paid a fortune β€” but for what, exactly? What makes a good C.E.O. β€” and how can you even tell? Is "leadership science" a real thing β€” or just airport-bookstore mumbo jumbo? We put these questions to Mark Zuckerberg, Richard Branson, Indra Nooyi, Satya Nadella, Jack Welch, Ray Dalio, Carol Bartz, David Rubenstein, and Ellen Pao. (Part 1 of a special series, "The Secret Life of C.E.O.'s.")

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So I have one grape about chip bags, especially for the single serve.

0:09.4

It seems to me very suboptimal to have the only opening at the top where you kind of have

0:15.3

to jam your hand in there and you can't really see what you're getting.

0:19.0

Wouldn't it be better to have a bag that just laid out all the chips on the package like

0:22.6

a nice picnic blanket or something if you ever thought about that?

0:25.4

But imagine that you're walking around eating your bag of chips which a lot of people do.

0:29.8

How would that work?

0:31.5

If you open out the lace too much and a gust of wind comes by, you're going to see a lot

0:35.2

of chips flying.

0:36.2

We have to worry about all these little practical things.

0:41.0

That's Indra Noi.

0:42.1

Good morning.

0:43.1

Noi is a CEO of PepsiCo.

0:46.0

So when it comes to little practical things to worry about, she has a lot of them.

0:50.8

PepsiCo has more than 260,000 global employees and over 100 brands and trademarks including

0:57.7

22 that each do at least a billion dollars a year in sales.

1:02.7

Those include Pepsi of course and Gatorade and Trappacana and Quaker Foods.

1:08.3

There are also seven separate billion dollar chip brands.

1:12.2

Lays, ruffles, Doritos, Toastitos, Cheetos, Friedos and Walkers.

1:18.3

So I'm out in the marketplace almost every week looking to see how our products looked

1:22.8

like on the shelf.

1:24.4

Not from a CEO lens, more from a consumer lens because at the end of the day, I'm not

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