In this episode, I sit down with Dan Shaw Bell to talk about his new book, Back to Human.

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My name is Greg Klunis, and in this episode I'm sitting down with a someone that I connected with a few months ago and let me just start out by this.

I was kind of surprised that I had the opportunity to connect with him. It's really

interesting he first came on my radar years ago when I first graduated college. My

girlfriend bought me a book that was all about how to promote yourself in sort of the social media era.

And I found it fascinating was such an interesting read. And so when this gentleman

liked my comment on a random Instagram photo is like oh I got a message

him and just see what happens so I sent him a message he turned out to be one of the

nicest guys I've ever met.

So I'm super excited to have the chance

to speak with him about his new book, Back to Human,

and just about his career in general

and what he's trying to help people accomplish and the problems he's trying to

solve. So without further ado, welcome to the show, Dan Charbel, how are you?

Great, thanks for having me on and Greg. It's been a pleasure to meet you and I look forward to discussing back to human and ways to make you know big leaps in your career.

Absolutely, I'm super, super excited about this.

Let's start here. So the book is titled Back to Human. That's obviously, I think a pretty

poignant title for nowadays. We sort of live in this world where many of us I think have sort of

forgotten how to connect with another human and so I just want to hear it from from

your mouth.

What were you trying to accomplish with this book?

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