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310. He Knew Me Before I Knew Him: Stalking Heather

Strictly Stalking

Strictly Stalking

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.12.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Heather thought she'd met a friendly stranger on a bus—until he revealed he already knew details she'd never shared. Soon he was showing up everywhere she went, inserting himself into her relationships, and eventually following her across state lines. His obsession escalated from surprise encounters to love poems, rambling manifestos, and even a bizarre marriage proposal delivered with a jar of honey. Today, Heather shares how she realized this wasn't coincidence but stalking—and how she fought back to take her life back from his fantasy.

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0:00.0

He started saying things like, if I can't have you, no one can, anyone who gets in the way of me having you.

0:08.3

Like, I'm not afraid to fight. I fought police before, like all this kind of stuff. So I did end up eventually reporting him to campus police.

0:20.3

I'm Jamie Beebe.

0:21.8

And I'm Jake Deptula.

0:23.0

On today's episode of Strictly stalking, we're speaking with Heather, a writer who survived a stalker who slipped into her life disguised as a friend.

0:29.5

He first approached her on a bus, already knowing details she'd never shared.

0:34.6

Soon he was showing up at her favorite spots, inserting himself into her relationships,

0:39.1

and eventually following her across multiple states. His obsession escalated from surprise visits to love

0:45.3

poems, manifestos, and a bizarre marriage proposal delivered with a jar of honey. Heather is here to

0:51.3

share how she recognized the danger, fought back, and reclaimed her life from the fantasy he tried to trap her in.

0:57.6

Heather, thank you for joining us today. What would you like to share with us about your life growing up?

1:02.7

I grew up in Northern California and later Eureka, Montana, when I was sent away to Chryslist Boarding School, part of the troubled teen industry, made famous through documentaries like, This Is Paris and the program.

1:14.9

What was the reasoning for putting you in some of these programs in an early age?

1:20.8

I had a pretty traumatic childhood. My family was small and troubled. I'm an only child. My dad worked for the Parks and Recreation

1:29.2

Department like Ron Swanson, but more of a warm personality. My mom, however, was unemployed most of my

1:35.0

life. Home life was tumultuous. My mom has severe mental health, disabilities, and substance abuse

1:40.3

struggles. I grew up amidst domestic violence. My mom abusing me and my dad. My dad tried to get me

1:45.7

out of that environment as much as he could. So I did have happy moments in my childhood. It wasn't all

1:49.8

bad. He would take me camping, fishing, and foraging in the redwoods. Unfortunately, those times were

1:55.5

rare, as he had to work hard to support our family on our very limited income. My mom wasn't really great mom and was in and out

2:02.5

of rehab, mental health facilities, and jail. So I was babysat a lot by a family member who took

2:07.3

advantage of my vulnerable situation to sexually abuse me. It got worse from there. My mom was arrested

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