309: We Need to Talk About Race (with Celeste Headlee)
Vibrant Happy Women
Jen Riday
4.8 • 671 Ratings
🗓️ 8 February 2022
⏱️ 35 minutes
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We discuss why people tend to avoid conversations about race with somebody who doesn't look like them, and why the key to allowing others to be seen, heard, and valued lies in having these important conversations. Celeste shares why you may not always say the right thing, but understanding and accepting this will enable you to learn from these exchanges and go forward with more power and compassion.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Vibrant Happy Women Podcast. I'm Dr. Jen Ridey, and on this episode, we'll be talking |
| 0:06.9 | about that oh, so important topic of how to have conversations about race. Stay tuned. Hi, I'm Jen Ridey, |
| 0:15.1 | and this podcast is for women who want to feel more vibrant, happy, aligned, and alive. |
| 0:26.0 | You'll gain the emotional, physical, and spiritual tools you need to get your sparkle back and ensure that depression, anxiety, and struggle don't rule your life. |
| 0:30.5 | Welcome to the Vibrant Happy Women Podcast. |
| 0:34.1 | Hey there, my friends. |
| 0:35.4 | I was reading a magazine a while ago and came across an author that I knew I wanted to have on the podcast. Her name is Celeste Headley. And we are talking today about race. Celeste is the author of the book, Speaking of Race, Why Everyone Needs to Talk About Racism and How to Do It. |
| 0:58.0 | You know, so often we want to say something to that crazy racist uncle or that male carrier that |
| 1:05.6 | makes the rude comment, but we don't know quite how to do it. How do we do it without looking like that angry |
| 1:12.4 | person or how do we say something without causing a fight or defensiveness? Well, in this episode, |
| 1:19.0 | I talk with Celeste Headley about how to do that. And I came away with a huge aha after this |
| 1:26.0 | conversation, namely that the same principles that apply |
| 1:30.1 | in any relationship, trying to avoid those four horsemen of the apocalypse that John Gottman |
| 1:37.0 | talks about, which are criticism, contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling, well, those same principles can apply in any conversation |
| 1:47.5 | about race. You know, my goal at home and in my relationships with friends and family is to create |
| 1:54.2 | emotional safety. What would our world look like if everyone truly felt heard and seen and like they belong? What would our world look like if everyone truly felt heard and seen and like they belong what would our world look |
| 2:04.8 | like if everyone felt emotionally safe celeste leads us through some thoughts on this and i think you're |
| 2:13.0 | going to be intrigued if you want everyone to feel emotionally safe on the topics of racism, you could |
| 2:20.6 | extend this to the topics of sexism and even politics, what do you need to do to create that |
| 2:28.6 | safety? We all need to be a part of this to end some of that divisiveness that we have seen in society as of late. |
| 2:38.2 | So go into this episode with an open mind and an open heart and think about how can I create |
| 2:44.9 | that feeling of belonging, allowing others to feel heard and seen, valued, and emotionally safe. This is so |
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