309. The Marathon that Changed Running, Ultra GOAT to Western States, Misconceptions about Training Volume, A Supershoe Lawsuit, and A Hydration Study!
Some Work, All Play
David Roche and Megan Roche
4.8 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2026
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
We violated the warranty on ankle tape before this great episode! A main topic involved taking a step back to understand the historic context of Vinny Mauri’s 2:05 debut marathon. We think it’s a performance that signals a fundamental shift in the future of the sport for everyone, and we discuss why.
We also talked about the exciting news that Jim Walmsley is heading to Western States with a sponsor slot. The GOAT is back! David had some terrible hot takes, and he’s now panicking that he didn’t give enough disclaimers that he doesn’t actually believe any of them.
And this one had lots of fun topics! Other topics: unique uses of athletic tape, Abby Steiner sues Puma over their shoes, misconceptions about training volume, physiological testing of private parts, uninformed thoughts on the Kentucky Derby, a hydration review arguing that many athletes underhydrate outside of training, a study on ketones during hard efforts, using caffeine to increase heart rate, combining Nomio and bicarb, the wild world of zone compression, AI thoughts, and lots more.
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| 0:00.0 | Woo! |
| 0:01.0 | Welcome to the SomeWork All Play podcast. |
| 0:03.0 | We are so happy with you today. |
| 0:04.0 | Happy Tuesday. It's Tuesday. And we're firing up our best athletic tape on this Tuesday. Our best athletic tape. Hmm. I don't know I'm talking about, tell me. It talks about the fact that yesterday I walked into the kitchen and you were just pants down in the kitchen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Applying some athletic tape to the nether regions. I was like, what is happening right now? |
| 0:22.5 | The correct term was all around those. kitchen, applying some athletic tape to the nether regions. I was like, what is happening right now? |
| 0:22.6 | The correct term was all around those nether regions. You really were. I mean, do you have like some |
| 0:27.9 | kind of ankle tape strategy that you used for down there? Yeah, well, it was our ankle tape, |
| 0:31.4 | the Hampton Adams tape that we used for our ankles. And what I did... Did you do a stirrup strip? |
| 0:36.4 | Basically, yeah. So I got a piece of toilet paper |
| 0:39.2 | and put it over the saddle sore that I've gotten from biking too much and then wrapped it all |
| 0:44.5 | around my leg. And it worked shockingly well. My saddle sore is healed, Megan. It's all because |
| 0:49.6 | I'm a doctor. Did you give yourself a Brazilian wax in the process? Honestly, I need it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really like, I don't know, look down there very often. And every so often, I'm like, damn, I'm glad I don't. Well, you wouldn't let me look down there. No, no. I was like, I want to check it out and just make sure you're not at like a serious infection risk. And you're like, absolutely not. There are some things that are between me and God. |
| 1:29.2 | Yeah. And that is down there. So yeah, I mean, it actually worked shocking and well. If anything, I think that I should be celebrated as a pathfinder. Like there should be a Disney movie made about me. They made one about Moana. That's fucked up. If you're not making one about me and my taint strap. Okay, Lynn Winwell, Miranda, and Taint Shraps. |
| 1:30.4 | Could you imagine it? You could be some beautiful magical music about that. Oh my God. The bangers that would result would be so transformative. But you're tough as nails because I saw you get on the bike and you were just whinsing the first three minutes, kind of like floating your butt above the seat. Yeah. And it looked painful. Yeah, It was not the most pleasant bike I've ever done. Is it like a blister where it kind of works its way through as you go on? Honestly, I think we can stop talking about it now for the intro of our podcast. The thing is that this is like real life. Like our podcast, you know, the vibes on here are obviously a little weird, a little, but like, this is kind of how we are in normal life. |
| 2:02.6 | True, true. |
| 2:03.7 | And this is something that many people deal with, but I feel like we don't need to give explicit words to it. |
| 2:10.0 | I think people will be better off if we don't talk any more about my saddle sore. |
| 2:14.4 | I feel like that is our podcast, that we're giving explicit words to the things no one wants |
| 2:18.3 | to talk about. |
| 2:18.9 | Boom. |
| 2:19.3 | Boom. |
| 2:51.7 | Boom. Boom. Boom. New tagline. Let's go into the great episode. Here's a quick roadmap. We're going to talk about Jim Walmsley in Western States. Oh, hell yeah. Some more thoughts on Vinnie Maui, who had the most shocking performance ever, a super shoe lawsuit, a training volume discussion, a hydration review study, a study on ketones and racing, and questions on caffeine, nomio and bicarb, horses, though that might come up sooner, chatbots, and more. We've got a lot of questions about horses. Yeah. Bicarb and horses, training in horses. Yeah, do you have answers? I don't have that many horse thoughts. Yeah, neither do I have. But I'll answer them. |
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