309: "Not Safe for Bill Gothard Headquarters" | Lindsey Williams
Preacher Boys Podcast
Eric Skwarczynski
4.6 • 701 Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2024
⏱️ 108 minutes
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Summary
On June 2nd, 2023, the documentary series "Shiny Happy People" premiered on Amazon Prime. While the series' tagline promised to expose some Duggar family secrets, it ended up revealing much more, particularly the work and philosophy of Bill Gothard, the creator of the Institute in Basic Life Principles and the Advanced Training Institute. Gothard's curriculum was marketed as extremely helpful for families in protecting their children, but it ultimately caused incredible harm.
Today, a year after the series premiered on Amazon Prime, I'm sitting down with one of the cast members of "Shiny Happy People," Lindsay Williams, to discuss her life journey from starting in IBGP at the age of eight to working alongside Bill Gothard one-on-one at headquarters. We even spent a good chunk of the conversation discussing Lindsay Williams' life now, both as an advocate and as a successful makeup artist who has worked with brands like Vogue and GQ. We explore what it's like transitioning from being a repressed homeschooler to working in the fast-paced world of beauty and fashion.
It's an incredible conversation. I thoroughly enjoyed talking to Lindsay; we instantly became friends, and I'm certain you'll love hearing from her in this episode of the Preacher Boys podcast.
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Lindsey Williams' Linktree – https://linktr.ee/Cultchronicles
Recovering Grace – https://www.recoveringgrace.org/
Jill Duggar's Book – https://amzn.to/3KtcvB2
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| 0:00.0 | Trigger warning. This podcast contains descriptions of various abusive situations. Listener discretion is advised. |
| 0:09.2 | You are listening to the Preacher Boys podcast, a podcast shedding light on decades of mental, physical, and sexual abuse within the independent fundamental Baptist movement. |
| 0:20.4 | The testimony shared on this podcast are told from the personal experience and perspective of |
| 0:25.5 | the survivors. Not all legal outcomes are known or final. Any suspect is presumed innocent |
| 0:31.7 | until proven guilty in the court of law. Now, here is your host, Eric Squarsinsky. On June 2nd, 2023, the documentary series |
| 0:41.6 | Shiny Happy People premiered on Amazon Pride. And while this series tagline promised to expose some |
| 0:47.5 | Dugger family secrets, it ended up exposing a whole lot more, namely the work and philosophy |
| 0:53.6 | of Bill Gothard, the creator of |
| 0:55.9 | Institute in Basic Life Principles, and the Advanced Training Institute. |
| 1:00.6 | Gothard's curriculum was marketed as being extremely helpful for families to protect their |
| 1:04.6 | children, but it ended up doing incredible harm. |
| 1:08.1 | Today, a year after the premiere of the series on Amazon Prime, I'm seeing |
| 1:11.6 | down with one of the shiny, happy people cast members, Lindsay Williams, to talk about her |
| 1:16.0 | entire life journey, from starting an IBLP as an eight-year-old to working alongside with Bill |
| 1:22.5 | Gothard one-on-one at headquarters, and we even spend a good chunk of the end of our conversation talking about |
| 1:28.7 | Lindsay Williams' life now, both as an advocate, but also as a successful makeup artist who's |
| 1:34.1 | worked with brands like Vogue and GQ, and what it's like going from being a repressed homeschooler |
| 1:39.4 | to work in the fast-paced world of beauty and fashion. It's a really incredible conversation. |
| 1:45.1 | I had so much fun talking to Lindsay. We became instant friends. And I really know you're |
| 1:49.5 | going to love her in this episode of the Preachie Boys podcast. So without further ado, |
| 1:53.5 | here's my conversation with Lindsay Williams. Lindsay, thank you so much for joining me. |
| 1:58.8 | Absolutely. Thank you for having me. I've been wanting to talk to you for a while. |
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