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All right, everyone. We'll welcome back to Mormon Stories Podcast. We're now in hour two with

author Brent Gardner. His book is entitled The Gift and Power Translating the Book of Mormon.

You can get this book at Greg Coford Books. It's Greg Coford, KOFFORD.com. You can purchase

the book there, along with lots of other good books. If you use the code MStories, I believe,

is the code, you can get 20% off your purchases there. That code needs to be all in caps,

MStories, all in caps. Again, if you buy a book through us, you'll get a discount and a little bit

will come to Mormon Stories. In our first hour, we learned a little bit about Brent and then we dove

into Joseph Smith. We talked about the first vision. We talked about the full magic and treasure

digging stuff and his use of a seer stone or a stone to do some of that treasure seeking.

Now we're going to dive into what really is the core of your book, Brent. That's

the translation of the book of Mormon. Is that right? Yes.

Let me just see if I can remember what I know about church history, which is little. But basically,

there was no mention of the book of Mormon in the first vision, right?

Correct. So what, 1820, what, three, four, when did Buronai first appear to Joseph?

You're seeing how you're going to get me. Oh, I'm sorry. I shouldn't put you on the spot with the

key. Yeah, really. Come on. Sorry. Now that we have all these computer tools to remember things like

dates, we don't have to have them on the tongue anymore. Okay, so sometime within what, five years

after the first vision, Buronai appears, right? Right. Okay. And, and what does he say to Joseph,

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