people see fewer options and there actually are.

I think the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater a lot.

And what I mean by that is that people will look at PT and go,

well, it's either, you know, go to this insurance-based clinic

where they're not going to view me as an athlete,

or I go to this cash bay clinic where I don't know that I can afford to go consistently.

And when you're left with only those two options, I agree.

I think going to see someone who's out, you know, outside of the insurance network,

there's a lot more freedom and flexibility with that.

I think the bigger component to that is generally those people are, and personality-wise,

they're less risk-averse. And so they're more kind of like you go people who go

out into the world and learn really experience rather than sit back and wait

for stuff right so I think in general those are probably better clinicians

not only from like the like they're you're gonna give better care because you're

not with insurance but I think those are generally more forward-thinking people

sit down keep it real and cut the bullshit welcome to table talk all right guys

we're back with another episode of table talk, my guest is Danny L. Martina.

La Martina. La Martina. Yeah. I don't want to say what the old name was. No, you can. Over Cash. Yeah, I had the coolest last name in the world. Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, like when I married Dave, I told him it is a sign of true love when I actually take

his last name instead of my former last name over cash, like the nicknames and all that that I had grown up always. It took me like two years, you know, to make the switch. To make the switch. It really did. That's okay. Because I'm like, oh, man. So, I mean, A real quick summary. you know, I think this is the second or third time you've been on the podcast.

The last time you were out here was January 2020.

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