This is Joe Wong.

Welcome to the Trap Set.

I want to play something for you.

Somebody's working. You want to play you.

This is a blanket for a boy. This is a family. This is a man. You're hearing, you're a guy, featuring my guitar, on guitar, on guitar and vocals.

This is a live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin on October 13,

1995. I was in the audience, and listeners of this podcast know that this show changed my life

in a fundamental way. A native of Washington, D.C., Pichiotto began singing in 1984 in the seminal band Rites of Spring.

He also worked with the Blacklight Panthers, One Last Wish, and Happy Go Licky.

Prior to joining Fugazi in advance of their 1988 eponymous EP.

He remained active with the band until they went on hiatus in 2003.

For the past few decades, Guy has emerged as one of the most compelling producers of his generation,

helping artists such as Blonde Redhead, Vic Chestnut, and the Blood

Brothers reach new creative heights.

Gee has produced all the studio recordings by the duo Xylurus White, and he produced

Jim White's expansive new solo debut, All Hits Memories, now available on Drag City Records.

And now my conversation with Guy Pichoto.

Do you think you're spiritually more of a drummer or something else?

No, I don't think I'm spiritually musician at all, but I do.

I think because I, the bands that I was in from when I was very young practiced at my

parents' house, there was always drums in the house.

So, you know, I would always, you know, when we weren't rehearsing or something, I could

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