304: Scott Strode—The Shadow on the Wall is You

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

History, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 7 March 2023

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Scott Strode, founder & national executive director of The Phoenix, reveals why rock climbing and marathoning helped him break the cycle of his addiction and how he is transforming the way our country approaches recovery with fitness and community.

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0:00.0	Well, hello, friends. It's episode number 304 of the way I heard it, and it's called The Shadow on the Wall is You.
0:12.3	Because surveys suggest, Chuck, that it very well might be.
0:16.4	Yes, I believe that's how we all start in the cave, staring at ourselves, chained up, looking at the shadows on the wall.
0:24.0	I don't think that's really how we all start.
0:25.7	No, no, that's not how it all starts.
0:28.5	That's an allegory that comes up in the conversation you all are about to listen to, courtesy of my friend Scott Strode,
0:35.2	who's referring, of course, to Plato's famous rumination on the
0:39.7	journey to enlightenment vis-a-vis a caveman shackled in place inside of a cave.
0:44.7	We'll get to all that.
0:45.7	It'll be made much more clear than Chuck just did.
0:48.3	Thank God.
0:49.1	But, yeah.
0:50.4	By the way, Plato, what a name dropper.
0:52.9	I mean, honestly.
0:54.8	That's Plato, not Play-Doh.
0:56.8	Totally different conversation.
0:58.2	Oh, right.
0:59.4	My friend Scott, I met several years ago at a stand-together event.
1:03.9	Stand-together, if you haven't heard, is, and even if you have, an organization that funds and supports a number of non-profits and bloody do-goaters,
1:15.7	myself included. They've been very generous with microworks over the years. And so I went to one of
1:22.3	these gatherings years ago and found the same thing I found with returning the favor. It was like a giant repository
1:30.1	of people who woke up every day just annoyed that the world wasn't the way they thought it should be.
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