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303 Creative LLC v. Elenis

5-4

Prologue Projects

News Commentary, News, Government

4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

In this case from this past Friday, the Court has added a giant loophole to our anti-discrimination laws. How big is the loophole? About the size of a 161’6″ super yacht or a Bombardier Global 5000 private jet.


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0:00.0

We'll hear argument first this morning in Case 21476 303 Creative LLC versus Illanus.

0:11.4

Hey everyone, this is Leon from Fiasco and Prologue Projects.

0:15.4

On this episode of 5-4, Peter, Rianan and Michael are talking about 303 Creative LLC, the Alainus.

0:24.4

The case centers around a graphic designer, Laurie Smith, who says that a Colorado law

0:29.2

prohibiting businesses from discriminating against the customers would force her to create content

0:33.8

for same-sex couples, contrary to her religious beliefs. Smith's argument is that making a

0:39.8

wedding website amounts to expressive speech, and at taking on gay couples as clients would therefore

0:45.9

force her to perform speech that she disagrees with. The court's decision, which came down just

0:51.8

last week, creates a loophole in many anti-discrimination laws, with enormous roundifications for

0:58.0

civil rights. This is 5-4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks.

1:08.7

Welcome to 5-4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have choked our civil

1:14.8

rights like smoke from Canadian wildfires choking New York City. I'm Peter, I'm here with Michael.

1:21.7

Is that happening again? Yes, it is happening again, Michael, and Rianan. Hey, it's happening in

1:26.5

Chicago too. Well, who cares? But for the second or third time in a couple of weeks, you look out

1:36.6

and it's like, hmm, pretty hazy out. Is that a delightful morning fog? No, it's a Canadian wildfires.

1:45.2

Right. The zeitgeist I miss out on now that I'm not on Twitter. Who knew? More wildfires.

1:52.3

Let's stress for you though. Yes. Jalus. It's good. I love it.

2:00.0

All right. Today, sort of an emergency episode. It's a short turn around episode today's case

2:08.8

303 Creative The Alenis. This is a case about free speech and at the time of recording,

2:16.4

dropped today. Yeah, we are recording this on the day that this opinion dropped. That's right.

2:21.0

Yeah. More specifically, this is a case about whether a homophobic rat of a woman who has a

2:28.7

wedding design website can refuse to provide services to LGBT couples on account if she doesn't like

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