In my experience, about 60 to 70% I would say of the mothers of these girls who were being abused supported the offender.

It was so common it was the theme of the movie precious and it's such a horrible thing and hopefully people are horrified by it.

He says, well I'm calm, the police and she says do what you got to do but she's not leaving with you.

Hello and welcome to the best case worst case. This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler former New York City prosecutor and right producer of CVS is criminal minds and still with criminal minds in season 16 on Paramount Plus.

And with me today, thankfully from afar is everybody is francey hags for state and federal prosecutor and executive producer and writer on audible's Midwest monster.

Jim I'm very excited because we have a brand new guest today someone who's never been on the podcast in all five have we been on the year five years now.

Seems like it seems like an eternity actually.

Definitely five years and so Heather introduce yourself to our listeners please.

Hello, my name is Heather Brown and I am a former deputy district attorney here in Orange County, California.

And I just retired in March, the end of March of this year from the homicide unit and prior to that I was in the sexual assault unit for 10 years.

And now I opened up my own shingle I do a little bit of this a little bit of that and I work with a civil firm called Greenberg gross helping them litigate cases in the sexual assault arena.

Wow, wow, very long the bartending school, which is.

Oh, well, that just sounds fun Heather that is we now we just know you're a fun person.

Well, maybe you're an assistant here deputy DA so course you're fun.

Well, maybe we should ask her, francey if she can make our favorite drink.

That's true, Heather Jim and I have the same exact favorite cocktail only thing that we have actually in comment that we like well, the same is.

We love garlic bread Jim yeah, with that's true, but that you can't drink that well, some of them, okay, really soaked garlic bread is good too, but anyway, that's not what we're talking about we're talking about of course,

let me drop martini martinis.

Oh, I love lemon drop martinis.

And I do know how to make a mean one.

It sounds like.

I'm gonna have an LA next Jim. Oh, for sure. Well, let's get down to brass tax here though, Heather, it's so nice to see you.

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