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Hi, I'm Olympian Carrie Tullifson and welcome to the C-Tolley Run podcast. Today I have not

one but two guests on the show.

The authors of the book Breakthrough Women's Running, DreamBag and Train Smart.

Neely Spence Gracie is an elite runner, a coach, a mom to two little boys, and now a new author.

Cindy Kuzma is also a runner, a seven-time Boston Marathon Qualifier.

She's also a freelance writer and writes a lot for a runner's world.

She's an author of more than one book, and she's also a podcaster.

In this episode, we hear all about their running, their journeys into the sport,

Neely's coaching, and Cindy's writing and podcasting. And we, of course, take a deep dive

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