I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

their story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning That you might be a treasure

I could touch but never hold

Hello, everybody, and you're listening to the So Before podcast

And I am joined today by Sasha Tozzi.

Did I say that correctly?

Tazi, yeah.

Tazi. Oh, you probably have that all the time,

do you? Yes, yes. You're not the first. I'm really delighted to have Sasha. I've known,

sort of known Sasha for quite a few years, really. I mean, right back to the She Recovery's

event in New York, which was 2017. Yep, seven years ago. Yep. Jeez. And sort of, you know, online connections. And I've just always liked the stuff she posted and had some interactions. I thought, you know, I've got to get her on because she's just really interesting. Sasha, why don't you tell people a little bit about yourself and what you do?

And I want to get into your story. Okay. Awesome. Thank you, Veronica. So now I am a recovery coach.

I do hypnotherapy. I write and I started doing that in 2015, about four years after I got sober.

I got sober in 2011.

And it was just kind of a natural evolution to, after I did some healing, to want to expand out and help other people and be open about sobriety and be, you know, loud and

unashamed. So I started with blogging and then got into helping other people with one-to-one work

and group work. And after originally starting with mainly just

addiction and sobriety, it moved into some codependency work and like all the, all the branches

of the same tree. So yeah. Yeah. Cool. Well, one thing I'm interested in is you got, I got sober when I was

27, you got sober at 26. So you said 2011, that's when my first son was born. Wow. Yeah.

So I would love to, like, where did you grow up?

I grew up in the D.C. area, a suburb of 15 minutes outside of D.C. proper in the suburb of Maryland. And grew up there my whole life. So I was born there and lived there until I went to

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