I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hello, everybody.

You are listening to the Soberful podcast.

I'm Veronica Valley, and I am joined today by Dr. Kimberly Horn.

Welcome.

So wonderful to be here. I'm honored. Thank you, Veronica.

I, as I was saying earlier, I get solicited a lot by people wanting to come on the podcast,

and Dr. Kimberly's book really kind of stood out to me, because I just think it's a great fit

and a great subject to talk about. Your book is called Friends Matter for Life,

harnessing the eight tenets of dynamic

friendship. So really, really interesting topic. Thank you. Why did you write the book?

I think the book came to me really in two ways. As a scientist and research psychologists

and having done about almost 30 years of research

and physical and mental health outcomes.

One of the things that consistently has stood out in my findings is the importance of social connection and our social networks

and our overall health and well-being.

To the opposite of that, loneliness and disconnection can have critical impacts on our overall

well-being.

So I think that paired with the pandemic.

We all had time to think a little bit about connection and loneliness.

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