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Hey, everyone, welcome to Dr. Roosha Radio.

This is Dr. Roosho. Today, I'm here with Dr. Mikey Nelson.

One of the guys I respect the most in the field of exercise, fitness, amongst other things,

but really has a very well-researched, very pragmatic and objective

look at whatever he looks into. And more I get to know, Mike, the more I like him. So, Mike,

you have some pretty lofty descriptions to live up to today on the podcast. Yeah, thank you. Hopefully, hopefully I make it.

We'll see. Well, I think you were the first person I came across who discussed this issue of

macro cycling. You also have described it as metabolic flexibility, essentially changing up the composition of your diet.

And just to use two broad points for which people oscillate in between, they may oscillate from a lower carb, higher fat diet and then switch over to a higher carb, lower fat diet.

And I believe the fundamental premise here is a healthy metabolism should be flexible.

And we also may have evolved with a bit of seasonal oscillation in our macronotrient composition.

And so there seems to be an argument there.

And I'm really curious to explore more of these details in terms of everything from what we should call this or label this as and who can benefit from it.

Who may want to be a little bit cautious with it and I guess everything in between.

So just really briefly here, in case anyone hasn't come across you before,

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