Welcome to How Leaders Lead. I'm Kula Callahan, here to bring you another edition of three more

questions with David Novak. These are the episodes where we break down the previous week's interview

and get David's take on some of the concepts that he discussed with that guest. David, today

we're debriefing your conversation with Ken Bacon,

who is a fellow Comcast board member,

and he is also the co-founder and managing partner of Railfield Partners.

He was also an executive VP at Fannie Mae for a number of years,

and this man has stories for days. You're absolutely right, Kula.

Ken is a heck of a storyteller. And, you know, I think when you can tell stories that make the

point the way he does, it really is one of those things. It really does differentiate you as a leader.

And, you know, Ken's a great communicator and is really good at making his

point through stories. And that's something that I think every leader needs to understand how to do.

I love hearing about his upbringing. He grew up in segregated Texas. And this is a man who just does

not give anyone excuses. He values hard work. He knows what it means to define what you want

success to look like and then do everything you can to get there. And so, David, I'm excited to get

your take on some of the concepts that you and can discuss. So let's get going with today's

questions. All right, let's go.

Question number one. Ken was an executive VP at Fannie Mae

during a number of financial crises,

and I loved hearing him talk about

how to lead a team through times of uncertainty.

He shared things like, you know,

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