3 More Questions (Bobbi Brown) with David Novak and Koula Callahan
How Leaders Lead with David Novak
David Novak Leadership
4.8 • 596 Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to How Leaders Lead. I'm Kula Callahan here with David Novak to bring you another edition of three more questions where we debrief David's conversations with his previous week's guest. |
| 0:11.0 | I am especially excited for today's conversation because before I ever worked with David and How Leaders Lead, I was a huge fan of Jones Road. Jones Road Beauty. It's an amazing brand |
| 0:25.3 | led by an amazing woman named Bobby Brown, who if you are a female, you've probably heard of Bobby |
| 0:31.1 | Brown. And this is her second appearance on the How Leaders Lead podcast. And I believe that I am Bobby Brown's spirit |
| 0:39.2 | animal. Well, how come you would ever have heard of Bobby Brown? She's only written nine books, |
| 0:43.5 | been on the Today Show, you know, form Bobby Brown Cosmetics, is known as the queen of |
| 0:49.6 | cosmetics, has created one billion dollar brand. It is now on her second. I mean, what are we talking |
| 0:56.8 | about here? I'm glad you heard about her. Okay, I've actually known who Bobby Brown was since I was 12 years |
| 1:01.8 | old because the summer after sixth grade was when all the girls started wearing makeup in my hometown. |
| 1:07.3 | And so we went to the mall, walked around the cosmetic section, and basically chose the |
| 1:13.0 | cosmetic brand that we wanted to kind of like fill out our first ever makeup bag with. And I chose |
| 1:20.3 | Bobby Brown. And I've just loved her ever since I was 12 years old. And so have followed her career. |
| 1:24.7 | And wouldn't say I'm a super fan, but I think that we are kindred spirits. |
| 1:30.4 | Well, I think you are too. She doesn't really tolerate a lot of BS, neither do you. And I think that's great. |
| 1:36.4 | I don't use makeup, but if I did, I might want to try Jones Road Beauty because I like the concept |
| 1:42.0 | behind. It's really simple, not a lot of makeup, |
| 1:45.0 | but just the kind of makeup you need to kind of give you the accents that really show who you |
| 1:49.3 | are. And I like that. Clean, fresh, and vivacious. That's the energy we're taking into this episode. |
| 2:00.1 | All right, question number one. |
| 2:02.1 | Bobby's ability to drill down and get to the heart of an issue is remarkable. |
| 2:06.7 | And it's a skill every leader needs to develop. |
| 2:09.3 | David, what advice would you give someone who's trying to really develop this skill to cut through the BS and get down to the heart of the issue? |
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