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How Leaders Lead with David Novak

3 More Questions (Bobbi Brown) with David Novak and Koula Callahan

How Leaders Lead with David Novak

David Novak Leadership

Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

4.8596 Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of 3 More Questions, you'll hear David Novak's answers to: What advice would you give someone who’s trying to develop Bobbi's skill of getting to the heart of the issue? What are some signs that your company is getting cocky and bloated … and how can leaders avoid that?  What do you think it is about Bobbi that has allowed her to grow one billion dollar brand and be on her way to growing her second?  ——— GO DEEPER Scale up your leadership skills in 2 minutes a day with the How Leaders Lead app — Download today in the App Store Get coaching from David by signing up to receive his Weekly Leadership Plan. It builds on each podcast episode by offering actionable steps you can take each week to incorporate the learnings from the episode into your leadership style. It only takes about 5 minutes and is a great way to start off your week! Subscribe to the How Leaders Lead podcast to ensure you never miss an episode!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to How Leaders Lead. I'm Kula Callahan here with David Novak to bring you another edition of three more questions where we debrief David's conversations with his previous week's guest.

0:11.0

I am especially excited for today's conversation because before I ever worked with David and How Leaders Lead, I was a huge fan of Jones Road. Jones Road Beauty. It's an amazing brand

0:25.3

led by an amazing woman named Bobby Brown, who if you are a female, you've probably heard of Bobby

0:31.1

Brown. And this is her second appearance on the How Leaders Lead podcast. And I believe that I am Bobby Brown's spirit

0:39.2

animal. Well, how come you would ever have heard of Bobby Brown? She's only written nine books,

0:43.5

been on the Today Show, you know, form Bobby Brown Cosmetics, is known as the queen of

0:49.6

cosmetics, has created one billion dollar brand. It is now on her second. I mean, what are we talking

0:56.8

about here? I'm glad you heard about her. Okay, I've actually known who Bobby Brown was since I was 12 years

1:01.8

old because the summer after sixth grade was when all the girls started wearing makeup in my hometown.

1:07.3

And so we went to the mall, walked around the cosmetic section, and basically chose the

1:13.0

cosmetic brand that we wanted to kind of like fill out our first ever makeup bag with. And I chose

1:20.3

Bobby Brown. And I've just loved her ever since I was 12 years old. And so have followed her career.

1:24.7

And wouldn't say I'm a super fan, but I think that we are kindred spirits.

1:30.4

Well, I think you are too. She doesn't really tolerate a lot of BS, neither do you. And I think that's great.

1:36.4

I don't use makeup, but if I did, I might want to try Jones Road Beauty because I like the concept

1:42.0

behind. It's really simple, not a lot of makeup,

1:45.0

but just the kind of makeup you need to kind of give you the accents that really show who you

1:49.3

are. And I like that. Clean, fresh, and vivacious. That's the energy we're taking into this episode.

2:00.1

All right, question number one.

2:02.1

Bobby's ability to drill down and get to the heart of an issue is remarkable.

2:06.7

And it's a skill every leader needs to develop.

2:09.3

David, what advice would you give someone who's trying to really develop this skill to cut through the BS and get down to the heart of the issue?

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