Hello again, everyone. Welcome back to the Epic Gardening podcast. I hope you're doing

amazing. Kevin Espiritu here joined by Jen McGuinness, author of Microfood Gardening

and the Fraud Zinni blog, which I highly recommend you check out both of those resources.

So we talked about fun edible flowers yesterday. Now we're talking about a few cool ways

to grow baby greens, which is often something I recommend for someone who doesn't have

a lot of space, where if you're Microfood Gardening might be a chance that you don't have

a ton of space. So this sounds like there's a lot of little synergies here, Jen. What would

you recommend as maybe method number one, as a cool alternative way to grow some greens?

Sure. Well, baby greens are easy to grow because they don't get too tall and they grow

pretty fast. Usually you can get them within 20 days from seed. And they can also include

lettuce, kale, or spinach leaves. So one of the projects in the book that I had a lot

of fun creating and I kind of channeled my grandfather. He was a German cabinet maker

from obviously from Germany. But he used to make furniture for many family members in one

project in particular that stood out. My mind was this three-legged table that he created

for my mom as a plant table. And it was purely because he only had three legs. He made

it work. Tables are supposed to have four legs. When I was creating this project, I made

sure to have that fourth leg. But I was thinking about him the entire time when I was

taking a wooden picture frame and using that as the table top and combining it with

coconut core and chicken wire to make a planting area in the middle. And then once that

is secured and you put the soil in, you can attach the table legs and you can set that

up on your patio or porch. And then that way you have an edible side table. And if you

want to have it do multipurpose where it actually holds your drink at the same time,

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