3. Authoritarianism

Missing America

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.8 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Are we headed for a new world order where the Chinese model of authoritarianism becomes the norm? China has asserted itself at home and abroad, filling a void left by Trump’s America First retrenchment. China’s growing power can be seen as far away as Africa, even as people closer to home - in Hong Kong - have sounded the alarm. Host Ben Rhodes talks to experts, human rights activists and Hong Kong protesters about the nature of China’s model, and what America should think - and do - about it. For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/missingamerica. .

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0:00.0	November 2017, and I'm accompanying the now former president Barack Obama to Shanghai China.
0:07.0	Former president Barack Obama will meet with Chinese president Xi Jinping,
0:11.0	and according to a reporter with you...
0:13.0	He's giving speeches, meeting privately with leaders, I have very little to do.
0:18.0	It's a lot less stressful than when we were actually in government.
0:22.0	Then one night at 10 p.m., the phone wakes me up in my hotel room.
0:28.0	It's a front desk.
0:30.0	Someone from the Chinese foreign ministry wants to talk to me.
0:34.0	Now.
0:36.0	I quickly tidy up, and a few minutes later, two Chinese officials are sitting awkwardly in my room.
0:41.0	Only one of them speaks, a senior diplomat.
0:45.0	For a few minutes, he makes a diplomatic small talk I'd grown accustomed to,
0:49.0	praising the past cooperation between President Obama and President Xi Jinping.
0:54.0	And just as I'm wondering why he's here,
0:57.0	he gets to the point.
0:59.0	Is President Obama traveling to Delhi next?
1:02.0	He asks.
1:03.0	Yes, I say.
1:05.0	He says it's his understanding that President Obama is considering meeting in Delhi
1:09.0	with the leader of the Tibetan opposition in exile.
1:14.0	That's how China's government refers to the Dalai Lama.
1:17.0	To them, he's a kind of Tibetan terrorist.
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