2. Nationalism

Missing America

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.8 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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How did a backlash to globalization build into a wave of nationalism that has reshaped politics around the world? In Europe, nationalist leaders have risen by appealing to their supporters’ most primal needs for security and belonging. Host Ben Rhodes talks to David Lammy, a member of the UK Parliament, about the forces that gave rise to Brexit and nationalism across the West. Then we hear from European activists who have had success in pushing back, and from Americans about what the U.S. needs to do differently. For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/missingamerica.

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0:00.0	November 2016, just a couple weeks after the presidential election.
0:05.2	US President Barack Obama has departed for Athens and Greece on his farewell tour as the US head of state.
0:12.6	I joined Barack Obama on his final trip overseas as President of the United States.
0:17.5	To Greece, then Germany, then Peru.
0:21.7	And let's just say it was not the victory lab that we've been hoping for.
0:27.4	In Berlin, Angela Merkel's staff was grim.
0:32.4	Trump had just given the world a preview of what his presidency would be like.
0:36.4	By appointing the arch nationalist Steve Bannon to his staff, it made headlines all over Germany.
0:43.4	We know Bannon, one of them told me, and it wasn't hard to figure out what part of German history he was referring to.
0:50.4	When Obama said goodbye to Merkel the next day, she had a tear in her eye.
0:55.4	And if you know Angela Merkel, you know that never happens.
1:00.4	As we got back on Air Force One, Obama said to us, Angela, she's all alone.
1:10.4	I knew what he meant. All across the West, nationalists, anti-democratic movements and leaders were making inroads and gaining power.
1:19.4	A wannabe dictator, Viktor Orban, ruled Hungary.
1:22.4	The far right law and justice party, Rand Poland.
1:25.4	Great Britain had just voted to leave the European Union.
1:28.4	At every stop of Obama's final tour, leaders kept pulling a society.
1:33.4	Would Trump join this tide of nationalism?
1:36.4	Obama offered the only reassurance he could give.
1:39.4	Wait and see, he'd say. Wait and see.
1:44.4	He put on a brave face until our last stop.
1:49.4	We were driving in the presidential limousine, riding Air Force One after our final meeting in Peru.
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