3: 6. Volodymyr Zelenskyy: The Evolution of Ukrainian National Identity Volodymyr Zelenskyy, born in 1978, represents a modern, non-ethnic definition of Ukrainian identity. Zelenskyy is a Jewish, native Russian-speaking former comedian and successful media e
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🗓️ 20 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchew with Professor Eugene Finkel, intent to destroy Russia's 200-year quest to dominate Ukraine. |
| 0:06.0 | These are the facts that explain how confusing the Ukraine war can be, depending on point of view. |
| 0:14.0 | I ask the professor now to introduce Volodymyr Zelensky, born in 1978 the prominent president of Russia now, of Ukraine now, |
| 0:24.4 | against the Russian invader. He is a Jew, and he's an entertainer, a comedian, who spent |
| 0:31.5 | most of his career in Russia. He speaks excellent Russian. What do we need to know about him, |
| 0:36.7 | Professor, that explains his patriotism? |
| 0:40.6 | Right. So, so the Lansky, and you mentioned the key facts of his biography. |
| 0:46.5 | The Lansky is a very unusual Ukrainian president. So he's not a politician, right? He is a, he is a |
| 0:52.5 | comedian, he's an actor, but, you know, we tend to forget that he is |
| 0:56.1 | also a very successful media entrepreneur. He had his own company. He produced films and shows. |
| 1:05.3 | So he's not just a clown as, you know, Russian propaganda likes to present him. He's also a very successful businessman. |
| 1:12.6 | He also a native Russian speaker. He speaks excellent Russian because it's his mother tongue. |
| 1:18.6 | He comes from southern from southern Ukraine. He's Jewish and he's you and you absolutely right. He spent a large chunk of his career in Moscow. |
| 1:31.9 | So what it shows you is that is that there are many ways to be Ukrainian and being Ukrainian |
| 1:39.2 | does not mean being ethnically Ukrainian or speaking Ukrainian. |
| 1:46.0 | Essentially, what we see in Ukraine since 1991, but especially since 2014, |
| 1:53.0 | is that Ukrainian becomes more national affiliation rather than ethnic. |
| 1:57.0 | Ukrainian become a national identity. |
| 2:00.0 | Why it doesn't really matter which language you speak or, |
| 2:03.0 | you know, what your religion is. The key is a commitment to Ukraine as a state. So, you know, |
| 2:10.8 | maybe somewhat in parallel with the U.S. identity, right, where it doesn't really matter |
| 2:16.3 | where you come from as long as you consider yourself |
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