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Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

3.45. The Coaching Episode

Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

Chris McClung

Running, Sports

4.91.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Des and Kara welcome a special guest - their editor and show-notes writer - Chris McClung. That's me! For those that don't know, I am also a running coach, and my business, Rogue Running, coaches athletes to help them achieve their running goals (both in-person and virtually).

We just published a book called Running the Rogue Way where we teach you the how and why behind our coaching methods. Des and Kara were nice enough to have me on to talk about it. Links below if you want to check it out, but you get some teaser-tips in the conversation. The main message is that the book is for anyone who puts one foot in front of the other and wants to get faster - no certain speed or pace needed to start.

But first(!)... we cover recent news and events including Kara and Des's experiences at Brooks XC Nationals, where runner-parents get some parent-coaching tips. We talk about Athing Mu's departure from Coach Kersee and how that certain news outlet reported it. And, we discuss the bankruptcy filing from Grand Slam Track with some insider intel on what it means for athletes and their recent partial payments.

Finally, we finish with a Lagoon Sleep Top 5 to finish it off. Thanks so much to Des and Kara for inviting me on the show!

To get your copy of Running the Rogue Way

a. Hardcover: https://shop.ingramspark.com/b/084?params=duRtYl7Frjuhhph8KZ7fjriq7BusNLYAk4XXhBTGYGg

b. Paperback: https://shop.ingramspark.com/b/084?params=6egsNzSKdLR1IJkO1yPcuO3BaV31zmBbKBsxmwkqejS

Plus, special thanks to our bonus sponsor for the episode - Lagoon Sleep. Their holiday sale is officially LIVE, and it is the perfect time to give the gift of better sleep this season.

Listeners can use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off on their first pillow, OR take advantage of sitewide deals like $60 off two pillows and up to $160 off bundles.

Head to LagoonSleep.com/NOBODYASKEDUS now, and take the 2-minute quiz to find the perfect match, or grab your favorite pillow before these deals are gone.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everybody. Welcome to a new episode of Nobody Asked us with Des and Kara presented by Brooks Running.

0:18.7

Oh my God.

0:23.2

Shocked by the energy level.

0:25.7

You've been, this is how you've been all day.

0:27.0

Yeah, I don't know.

0:28.3

There's like a lot going on.

0:30.6

And then right there you were just like, boom.

0:33.3

Waiting for the moment to shine.

0:34.7

Had to bring it.

0:35.7

I had to bring it. You barrauded it.

0:37.2

That was amazing.

0:39.3

You guys dropped that on me last second and I have, you know, big shoes to fill.

0:44.1

Did you say, did you say who you are? Oh, sorry, guys. This is editor, Chris McClug. So nobody asked us with Des, Kara, and Chris today.

0:56.5

Woohoo.

0:57.4

Which is awesome.

0:59.1

It is awesome.

1:00.2

Coming from behind the scenes.

1:02.5

Yeah.

1:03.3

Normally listening in on the headphones, but not normally on the mic.

1:07.3

So excited to be on with you guys.

1:09.2

I know you feel better about not having had to do the intro and sluff it off on me mic. So excited to be on with you guys. I know you feel better about not having had to do

1:11.8

the intro and sluff it off on me today. Doesn't count towards hers, just for the record.

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