I'm John Batcher, visiting with Mark Clifford, the author of the new book, The Troublemaker, about Jimmy Lai.

He is now a multimillionaire, doing very well, keeps a pet bear, has a beautiful family,

and he's about to transform himself into the man we know today, who is deeply, deeply imprisoned by the Chinese Communist Party

that was part of the story of his success,

because China is opening to capitalism.

And Jimmy's in the right place,

and he believes that hard work brings luck,

and luck brings hard work.

So between 1975 and the late 80s, he prospers, he travels, he eats at very good

restaurants. He has ideas all the time. He's quite inventive. And then we come to Tiananmen.

And that is a nightmare for China, for the people who suffered there, and for everybody

who believes that they should be remembered, and Jimmy Lai is one of them. Mark, therein lies

a challenge. What moved Jimmy Lai, who is a factory guy, who knows that you need good relations

with everyone in order to move your

product, including the local apparatchiks of the party, what moves him to identify with the

victims of Tiananmen? Well, he identified first with his students before they were victims.

He, from his Giordano, his retail clothing chain,

he started making and selling t-shirts

with pictures of student leaders on the front

and sending the proceeds up to China.

He sent tents, he sent money.

He was all in with the students.

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