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This is CBS and the world. I'm John Bachelor with Robert Zubert. His new book is The Case for Nukes,

How We Can Be Global Warming and Create a Free, open, and magnificent future.

Robert, you've addressed what can go wrong and why.

Twice in the 20th century and once in the 21st century, nuclear plants were shaken by events.

But at the same time, these events have not discouraged the building of new nuclear plants with new technology

here in the 21st century, and you provide in your book a very careful list of where

plants are under construction when they're going to be completed when they

started and I see the list is very extensive and ambitious, dominated by plants in China, although

other parts of the World Island, Eurasia, everywhere.

However, what is striking is how few of these plants, in fact I only count two, are in the USA.

What is the limitation of the richest country in the world about nuclear energy? Is it what we just talked about, Three Mile

Island and Chernobyl, or is it this other thing you produce, costs? Which is it, Robert?

It's hostile hyper regulation. The Carter administration was heavily

infiltrated by anti-nuclear people and they created a new regulatory structure for nuclear

energy which is so complex I have a diagram in it in the book it looks like the

New York subway map okay and actually it's more complicated than that because each of those subway stops involves

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