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CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachelor with Daniel Clot, whose book of future in flames is about wildfires in the U.S. Bush fires in Australia. Same thing. It's a phenomenon although there are different vegetation,

different hemispheres, different wind conditions, and yet what do you do if you live in a fire zone,

which apparently, as far as I can tell, all of Australia is eventually in a fire zone.

There's a difference between fire risk parts of Australia is eventually in a fire zone. There's a difference between fire risk parts of

Australia and fire likely parts of Australia. Vast parts of the center of the country.

I've never been there, Danielle, so help me if I get this wrong. The West and the North,

Northern Territory and the Center are without many people and without many settlements.

The settlements are along the coast, south coast, and the southeast coast and the east coast.

And those areas are fire risk.

So we come to what kind of fires. Daniel has a whole section devoted to the big ones. They're not every year. We've mentioned

1939, but they come often enough so that you must think about them whenever you change your address.

Danielle, you started early in life before the babies you lived in urban settings I'm going to guess Adelaide maybe you lived in Sydney

But you moved to

Victoria the southern part of the continent, and you moved into the outskirts of a city where one of the first people who called upon you, most kindly, was the captain of the fire brigade. You were early in your marriage, were you ready for that that he was going to recruit you and your husband to be part of a fire brigade? Did you know that was coming?

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