Chown, pray on we're gaining ground.

Glory, hallelujah, the dead's alive and the lost is found.

Glory, hallelujah.

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So I want to get rolling.

Interesting, interesting subject matter today, but I'm joined today by Dr. Michael Svegel.

So thank you so much for joining me, Dr. Sveigel.

Thanks for having me.

I appreciate it.

So Dr. Sveal, this is the first time we've spoken in person. We've corresponded a little bit coming up on this episode.

I've been aware of you for a while. You serve as professor, I believe, professor of theological studies at DTS, Dallas Theological Seminary for the Uninitiated.

But where all do you do your work currently and where can people, like if somebody has not seen you, I suspect they might have seen one of your books, but where all do you do your work currently and where could people, like, if somebody

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