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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

299. Psychedelic Science | Dr. Dennis McKenna

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2022

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Dr. Peterson's extensive catalog is available now on DailyWire+: https://utm.io/ueSXh Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Dennis McKenna discuss the science behind psychedelics, the entities found through the looking glass, the current pharmaceutical approach to long life, and why it needs to change. Dr. Dennis McKenna is an American ethnopharmacologist, lecturer and author. He is a founding board member and the director of ethnopharmacology at the Heffter Research Institute, a non-profit exploring the therapeutic uses of psychedelic medicines. McKenna received his masters in botany at the University of Hawaii in 1979, followed by his doctorate in the same field at the University of British Columbia in 1984. Dennis is the brother of Terrence McKenna, a cultural figure and proponent for the exploration of psychedelics. Together they co-authored The Invisible Landscape. Much later Dennis would write a memoir, Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss, detailing he and his brothers exploits in the field. Today, Dennis tours and lectures, while also running the McKenna Academy of Natural Philosophy, which seeks to uncover the mysteries of consciousness held within the realm of botany and pharmacology. —Links— McKenna Academy: https://mckenna.academy The Experiment at La Chorrera https://mckenna.academy/events?id=32 ESPD55 Livestream Symposium ESPD55.com Those interested in donations may contact [email protected] - Sponsors - Birch Gold - Text "JORDAN" to 989898 for your no-cost, no-obligation, FREE information kit Elysium Health - Save 25% off Basis monthly subscriptions with code JBP25: https://trybasis.com/Jordan Shopify - Get a FREE 14-day trial with full access to Shopify's entire suite of features: https://shopify.com/jbp - Chapters - (0:00) Coming up (0:40) intro (2:33) Dr. Dennis McKenna now (6:47) What is ethnopharmacology? (12:45) Ayahuasca (26:02) Hierarchy of concepts (30:00) The Reality Hallucination (43:50) Breaking down hyper reality (49:30) Commonalities of entities (55:50) The intrinsic form of personality (1:00:15) Ritual, bad shamans (1:02:58) Carl Rogers, voluntary exposure (1:09:15) Roland Griffiths, the flaw in how medicine is practiced (1:12:05) Impending mortality (1:24:45) Dr. McKenna’s future plans (1:26:19) Looking back at a life long career // SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL // Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/jordanbpeterson.com/youtubesignup Donations: https://jordanbpeterson.com/donate // COURSES // Discovering Personality: https://jordanbpeterson.com/personality Self Authoring Suite: https://selfauthoring.com Understand Myself (personality test): https://understandmyself.com // BOOKS // Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: https://jordanbpeterson.com/Beyond-Order 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: https://jordanbpeterson.com/12-rules-for-life Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: https://jordanbpeterson.com/maps-of-meaning // LINKS // Website: https://jordanbpeterson.com Events: https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Blog: https://jordanbpeterson.com/blog Podcast: https://jordanbpeterson.com/podcast // SOCIAL // Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Instagram: https://instagram.com/jordan.b.peterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/drjordanpeterson Telegram: https://t.me/DrJordanPeterson All socials: https://linktr.ee/drjordanbpeterson #JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #DailyWirePlus #podcast #DennisMcKenna

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0:00.0

Hello everyone, thank you for tuning in and watching and listening. I'm very pleased

0:19.2

today to have with me, Dr. Dennis McKenna. He's an American ethno-pharmacologist, lecturer

0:27.9

and author. He is a founding board member and director of ethno-pharmacology at Hefter

0:34.2

Research Institute, a non-profit organization dedicated to the use and exploration of psychedelic

0:41.3

medicines. Dr. McKenna received his PhD from the University of British Columbia and worked as a postdoc

0:49.5

at the National Institute of Mental Health and at Stanford. He is the brother of Terrence McKenna,

0:54.7

who believed that the human relationship with psychedelic plants played a major role in our

1:00.1

cognitive and social evolution, who is a very well-known figure to denizens of the modern

1:05.8

psychedelic movement. Dr. McKenna and I first met some years ago, 2016, in Toronto at a conference

1:13.3

hosted by mine-matters at the University of Toronto, where we shared our views on the significance,

1:19.4

the potential significance of altered states of consciousness. It's really good to see, again,

1:24.0

Dennis. Thanks very much for agreeing to do this podcast. Thank you so much, Dr. Peterson.

1:31.2

It's a pleasure to be invited. I'm very happy to be here. It's nice to see you again after

1:38.1

eight years. So neither you nor I were famous at that time. Now you're quite famous, and I'm

1:47.6

a little more well-known. So time passes. Well, it's very good to see you. So tell me what you're

1:56.2

up to recently. As you said, we haven't spoken for a number of years. So what are you busy doing now?

2:03.0

Well, basically, so I immigrated to Canada in 2019, and I left academia. I left the University of

2:12.3

Minnesota, immigrated up here with my wife, and I started a nonprofit called the McKenna Academy

2:21.4

for Natural Philosophy. And originally, it was incorporated here in Canada, but then we

2:30.2

dissolved that and incorporated it in the states because it made more sense. And the McKenna

2:36.0

Academy for Natural Philosophy is basically devoted to education, as you can tell by the name

2:43.9

primarily about psychedelics and plant medicines. Originally, our vision for it was to do retreats

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