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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

298. Perception: Chaos and Order | Dr. Karl Friston

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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πŸ—“οΈ 20 October 2022

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Dr. Peterson's extensive catalog is available now on DailyWire+: https://utm.io/ueSXh Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Karl Friston discuss the world as we perceive it through micro narratives, how those narratives exist within a structured hierarchy, and how we can manipulate the system, and thus change our own mindsets. Dr. Karl Friston is a renowned neuroscientist, and one of the leading researchers in brain imagery. He is credited for inventing statistical parametric mapping, an international standard for the analysis of imaging data. His work also pertains to the free energy principle, and predictive coding theory. Currently, he works as a professor of neuroscience at the University College London. β€” Sponsors β€” Hallow: Try Hallow for 3 months FREE: https://hallow.com/jordan Invest in art today with Masterworks at http://masterworks.art/jbp. See important disclosures at https://masterworks.com/cd. β€” Chapters β€” (0:00) Coming up (1:04) Intro (2:43) The binding of entropy (5:25) Motivation and Fantasy (15:00) Hierarchy of micro narratives (29:30) Frans de Waal, the paradox in prediction (37:50) Inference and assuming the story (46:15) Dopamine and diatic narratives (54:33) Serotonin, the depressive mindset (1:07:31) Acetylcholine (1:10:29) The need to minimize free energy (1:16:48) The left and right hemisphere (1:22:20) Psychedelics and functional narratives // SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL // Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/jordanbpeterson.com/youtubesignup Donations: https://jordanbpeterson.com/donate // COURSES // Discovering Personality: https://jordanbpeterson.com/personality Self Authoring Suite: https://selfauthoring.com Understand Myself (personality test): https://understandmyself.com // BOOKS // Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: https://jordanbpeterson.com/Beyond-Order 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: https://jordanbpeterson.com/12-rules-for-life Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: https://jordanbpeterson.com/maps-of-meaning // LINKS // Website: https://jordanbpeterson.com Events: https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Blog: https://jordanbpeterson.com/blog Podcast: https://jordanbpeterson.com/podcast // SOCIAL // Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Instagram: https://instagram.com/jordan.b.peterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/drjordanpeterson Telegram: https://t.me/DrJordanPeterson All socials: https://linktr.ee/drjordanbpeterson #JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #DailyWirePlus

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0:13.9

Hello, everyone.

0:16.5

Thank you for tuning in to Watch and Listen.

0:20.8

I have the great privilege today of being able to talk with Dr. Carl Friston as an addition,

0:27.8

let's say in a signal addition to the recent conversation I had with Andrew Huberman.

0:34.4

Dr. Carl Friston is arguably the world's most renowned neuroscientist, a professor at

0:40.5

University College London. He is one of the world's leading authorities on brain imaging,

0:46.2

90% of the work published in fields employing such imaging relies on methods he pioneered.

0:52.6

Dr. Friston is also well known for his work on many of the topics we will discuss today.

0:58.1

Work, I find even more exciting, at least conceptually speaking, than his work on brain imaging.

1:03.8

We will discuss the ideas that concepts and precepts categories, that's another way of thinking

1:11.0

about it, bind free energy or entropy, the idea of computation, especially the kind of computation

1:20.0

that approximates brain function as hierarchical, the theory of predictive coding and active inference.

1:29.9

Welcome Dr. Friston, it's very good of you to agree to talk to me on this podcast.

1:34.1

I'm really looking forward to it. That's a great pleasure to be here, thank you.

1:38.5

So let me start maybe by helping people understand this idea of hierarchical computation and

1:45.8

the binding of entropy. And so if you could walk through that briefly, then I'll ask some questions

1:53.3

if that seems appropriate. Yeah, sure. The binding of free energy and entropy, that sounds

2:00.8

delightfully Freudian, and I don't mean that in a sort of disparaging sense. I think that some of

2:07.4

the truisms and the insights of that era have now proved themselves in modern formulations

2:14.6

of computation, information processing, sense making in the brain. And one nice link there

2:22.3

is to think of free energy as a surprise. So one way of looking at the way that we make sense

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