Hey there, I'm Julie Slattery and I'm so glad you've tuned in for this bonus episode of Java with Julie.

This podcast is a production of authentic intimacy, a ministry dedicated to reclaiming God's design for sexuality.

In the last episode, I talked to Lawrence Koo, and I've invited him back to really discuss some practical and difficult questions about finding our identity as a child of God and just how we walk out some of our sexual struggles.

I'll ask them some tough questions like, what do you do if your teenager wants to go to prom with somebody of the same gender?

Or do you think homosexuality is actually a social justice issue?

I'll also ask him how he personally finds intimacy in his life as a celibate Christian.

Now Lawrence is from the Netherlands.

He has worked with the Navigators for 17 years.

He's an international speaker and consultant on topics of sexuality, particularly related to same-sex attraction and singleness.

His expertise and wisdom flow right out of his own journey.

And if you didn't hear it, make sure you listen to episode 297, finding freedom in the midst of sexual brokenness.

Now let's head to the coffee shop for my conversation with my friend Lawrence Koo.

Thanks for having coffee with me again, Lawrence.

Appreciate it.

What I want to talk about today is really about identity.

And I know that's a big part of the work that God is done in your life in defining your identity, not by your

sexuality, but by who you are as a child of God. I want to refer to something that you said last time,

and maybe we can jump off of that. You talked about sexuality, different pieces of our sexuality

being a trailer for the main show, which is intimacy with God.

And you said that marriage is one piece of that trailer.

It's one thing that gives the glimpse of what intimacy with God is.

Another trailer that we see in scripture a lot is sonship or daughtership.

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