297. Talking to Muslims About Christ | Jonathan Pageau & Mohammad Hijab

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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🗓️ 17 October 2022

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, Jonathan Pageau, and Mohammed Hijab discuss comparative religion, what is said about Islam verses what Islam has to say, and how the uncomfortable conversation - whether contentious or unnerving, is well worth having. Mohammed Hijab is an author, comparative-religionist and philosopher of scripture. He is the co-founder of the Sapience Institute and is a researcher and instructor for the organization. He has a BA in Politics and a master’s degree in History. He has also acquired a second master’s in Islamic Studies from the School of Oriental and African Studies, as well as a third master’s degree in Applied Theology from the University of Oxford. Currently he is working towards his PhD in the Philosophy of Religion. Having completed Islamic seminary courses, he is one of very few Muslims who has been given formal permission to relay Islamic knowledge on selected Islamic fields, dealing with comparative, political and theological issues. In his efforts, he has amassed a substantial following on YouTube, aided in part by authoring books such as “The Scientific Deception of the New Atheists.” Jonathan Pageau is a French-Canadian liturgical artist and icon carver, known for his work featured in museums across the world. He carves Eastern Orthodox and other traditional images, and teaches an online carving class. He also runs a YouTube channel dedicated to the exploration of symbolism across history and religion. —Links— For Mohammed Hijab: Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHDFNoOk8WOXtHo8DIc8efQ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mohammedhijabofficial/?hl=en Twitter - https://twitter.com/mohammed_hijab?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Website - www.mohammedhijab.com The Sapience Institute - https://sapienceinstitute.org/ For Jonathan Pageau: Carvings - http://www.pageaucarvings.com Website - www.thesymbolicworld.com Orthodox Arts Journal - www.orthodoxartsjournal.org Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/c/jonathanpageau — Chapters — (0:00) Coming up (1:12) Intro (4:16) Addressing “Message to Muslims” (14:35) Colonial amnesia and the pattern of resentment (15:19) Egyptian mythology and the bloodshed of the past (21:49) Ignoring the voices of disunity (27:53) Is there an ultimate purpose to life? (35:42) The role of worship and ritual (39:52) Unity is not the same as uniformity (43:20) Belief at your own peril, deviation and depression (50:55) Islam recognizes Jesus, but not the son of god (59:16) We don’t know what we don’t know (1:08:40) Belief in word vs. belief in being (1:10:17) Why do we connect with specific scripture? (1:23:25) You are measured by how much you can endure (1:26:01) Would Jordan Peterson consider becoming Muslim? // SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL // Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/jordanbpeterson.co... Donations: https://jordanbpeterson.com/donate // COURSES // Discovering Personality: https://jordanbpeterson.com/personality Self Authoring Suite: https://selfauthoring.com Understand Myself (personality test): https://understandmyself.com // BOOKS // Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: https://jordanbpeterson.com/Beyond-Order 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: https://jordanbpeterson.com/12-rules-... Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: https://jordanbpeterson.com/maps-of-m... // LINKS // Website: https://jordanbpeterson.com Events: https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Blog: https://jordanbpeterson.com/blog Podcast: https://jordanbpeterson.com/podcast // SOCIAL // Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Instagram: https://instagram.com/jordan.b.peterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/drjordanpeterson Telegram: https://t.me/DrJordanPeterson All socials: https://linktr.ee/drjordanbpeterson #JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #DailyWirePlus #Psychology

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0:00.0	So our first fascist guest is Dr. Jordan B. Peterson. He is a clinical psychologist and
0:19.6	professor emeritus at the University of Toronto from 1993 to 1998. He served as an assistant
0:27.9	and then associate professor of psychology at Harvard. He spent 15 years writing maps of
0:34.9	meaning the architecture of belief. Dr. Peterson has penned the popular global best sellers
0:41.6	beyond order 12 more rules for life and 12 rules for life and antidote to chaos. In 2016
0:49.2	before the publication of 12 rules, several of Dr. Peterson's online lectures, videos
0:54.5	and interviews went viral, launching him into unprecedented international prominence as
1:00.1	a public intellectual and educator. With his colleagues, Dr. Peterson has produced two
1:06.7	online programs to help people understand themselves better and to improve their psychological
1:11.7	and practical functioning. He is currently working on an online university, dubbed Peterson
1:16.8	and a category. Please welcome Dr. Peterson. We also have with us Jonathan Peugeot. He is
1:27.4	an artist and he studies Christian symbolism and he also studies modernism. So we also
1:36.8	have with us our beloved Mohammed Hijab. He is an author, comparative religious and
1:42.4	philosopher of religion. He is the co-founder of our institute, Sapens Institute and he is
1:47.1	a research and instructor for the organization. He has a BA in politics and a master's degree
1:53.8	in history and he also acquired a second master's degree in Islamic studies from the school
1:58.2	over into African studies and he completed a third master's degree in applied theology
2:03.6	from the University of Oxford. Now he is studying his PhD on the philosophy of religion specifically
2:09.8	on the contingency argument for God's existence. In addition, Hijab has undergone formal training
2:17.2	in Islamic studies with a focus on the Quran. Prophetic traditions and legal reasoning,
2:22.5	Hijab has completed Islamic seminary courses and has been given formal permission to relay
2:27.0	Islamic knowledge on selected Islamic fields. Mohammed Hijab is one of the very few Muslim
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