297: Dark Tower IV: Wizard and Glass with Graham Skipper
The Kingcast
FANGORIA Podcast Network
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 31 December 2025
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
We break down the plot, underline how it weirdly mirrors the plot that George Lucas would later use for The Phantom Menace, and take a deep dive into how this book really plays to King's strength at mixing intricate character work and unbelievable world-building.
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| 0:00.0 | Happy New Year's everybody. We have a great episode for you on this last day of 2025 with Mr. Graham |
| 0:06.8 | Skipper talking about book four of the Dark Tower, Wizard and Glass. But before we get to that, |
| 0:11.6 | you know what's coming. Gotta do it one more time before the year ends on us. Fang, Gory, has been |
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| 0:55.9 | Now on with the show. |
| 1:03.9 | Hi. |
| 1:07.0 | My name is Stephen King. |
| 1:14.7 | The ice is going to break. |
| 1:16.1 | Dead rum. |
| 1:17.6 | Bad love. |
| 1:23.0 | You guys want to go see a dead body. |
| 1:26.7 | But sometimes dead is better. |
| 1:32.2 | Hello and welcome back to the Kingcast on the Fangoria Podcast Network. My name is Eric Vesby. And I'm Anthony Bresdenkin. And we are your hosts. Today we return to midworld as we take |
| 1:39.1 | another look at the fourth Dark Tower book, Wizard and Glass. Joining us in this journey, our temporary |
| 1:46.2 | quartet, if you will, is one of the most reliable faces |
| 1:49.2 | in genre today. He's a screenwriter, filmmaker, and actor |
| 1:53.0 | who first turned heads as the lead in the Stuart Gordon |
| 1:56.0 | approved stage musical adaptation of reanimator, where he |
| 1:59.3 | played Dr. Herbert West himself. You've also seen him |
| 2:02.5 | in almost human, beyond the gates, the mind's eye, carnage park, and very recently in Joe Lynch's |
| 2:08.5 | suitable flesh. Everybody, please welcome Graham Skipper to the Kingcast. Welcome to the show, man. |
| 2:13.8 | Hello, hello. Thank you for having me on. Yeah, yeah. Did you do a little curtsey, a little cowboy curtsey? I did. Oh, here I got, I got a tap my neck three times. Yeah, with the three digits. Yes, yeah, three. Or is it my left, my left hand? My left hand. Yeah, that was hugely disrespectful, what you just did. It was. I'm very sorry. I apologize. I apologize. Well, I think we're going to jump right into your Stephen King origin story because I really want to kind of lay the groundwork, lay the foundation of your Stephen King nerdiness before we get into, you know, the very niche. I can always tell when Dark Tower is the subject picked. |
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