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Today's clip is from episode 185 of the podcast with the leading neurosurgeon, Dr. Rahul Jandiel.

Now Rahul is often the last hope for patients with extreme forms of cancer.

He's observed humanity at its most raw, but also its most robust, and in this clip he shares some of the powerful lessons he's learned that are applicable to all of us.

I've met over 10,000 people, operated on more than several thousand, and I've met them all in their crises. I've met them all in their most difficult times in their lives, and they've let me come aboard and partner with them and journey with them for a little bit.

I started to see the ways in which they coped. I started to see some that were triumphant in in moments where I think I would just flail. And so what I've learned as a brain surgeon and neuroscientist is the human story of these people who see growth in their own lives based on their description when we would perceive it as calamity.

The cancer diagnosis, a scan, or the cancer has spread, and they have shown me that not always, but that difficult times, you know, they hold a reservoir for growth and just sort of the transcendence of the things that usually encumber us, the little thought, the little steps, the little frustrations.

And that finish line comes in a view because I take care of advanced cancer patients. They live differently, and they often wonder why did not we have these focuses, you know, focus on these kind of things quality of life before the cancer diagnosis.

I think that can shed light on how to live fully and how to live your life, realizing that it does end one day. And I think those insights are positive and optimistic and triumphant. They're not negative. They're not pessimistic.

And so they inspire me. They enlighten me with their descriptions of what they wish they would have done differently now that the end is within sight.

What are some of the insights that you've learned that have changed you and changed the way that you live your life?

Because it's that it's that frustrating thing about the human experience that we often need to confront our own mortality before we start truly living.

What it means for me is not just to live well or live fully because that's sort of a personal dimension.

But what are the lessons we can take from the approach cancer patients implement when they're facing those crises?

The approaches that I see cancer patients employ utilize to me that's fascinating after the cancer diagnosis, you have to get scans all the time. I miss every three months for life.

And I was thinking how how scary must that be to be in that scanner. What are they going to find?

There's a structure in which they say, okay, it's going to be a rough week because I have a scan and I have something called scans ID and that's a difficult time.

So we compartmentalize because you can't just say don't stress out. That's not fair, especially with their situation.

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