2019 was an extremely tough year and it was all about like trying to restructure and it was super

painful and we had to let a bunch of people go and tried to refocus on what I sort of saw as like

what's the magic the magic is these festivals right and a few of them so we were going to come back

in 2020 with a i suppose it was a vision that

was much more pure and close to what the original 2012-2013 version of wanderless would have been

and then i've had this final moment of like i had found new investors the thing was coming around

to being a stable vision of what I think at least

living up to that integrity and the values and the authenticity that I think we always wanted

to have it. And then COVID happened. Sort of like a one-two punch. And man, that was, I guess,

different for me because it was like, whoa, this isn't in my control at all. There's nothing

I can do about this. There's like a virus sweeping the world. We can't gather. No one can gather.

And the brakes just got slammed on by the world. I felt like it was the first time in 20 years,

I was forced to stop and consider what the hell that I'm doing with my life and why I'm actually here.

Because the rest of it had just been kind of like entrepreneurial like go go.

And of course in service the causes that were I still deeply believe in.

And I think we're really good for humanity.

But still just go, go, go.

And then stop.

Stop.

Most people chase success thinking that it's going to make them feel fulfilled inside.

Sean Hess actually reached success more than once,

and each time it left them feeling more and more disconnected.

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