Chuck?

Yes. I'm only going to say this once. Are you ready? Yes. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, Mike. I knew you were going to say that.

I just don't think it's appropriate much beyond the third to say this. So if you're listening to this on the fourth or the fifth or the 10th or the 20th,

I apologize. But in real time, it's the third of January. Chuck and I are looking at a brand

new year of the way I heard it and eager to kick it off with episode number 292, which we have

entitled, when animal lovers eat their own. Yes, because sometimes they do.

You can love animals and still find them delicious.

You know what? We all eat our own in some way, shape, or form.

And today's guest makes that point far more eloquently than I could.

It's Stacey Shoemaker.

Or is it Shoemaker?

Well, she says in Texas, they say Shoemaker, but if you're German, itacey Shoemaker. Where's it Shoemaker? Well, she says in Texas they say Shoemaker, but if you're German, it's Schumacher.

And I believe it's a German name.

Yeah, it's difficult to know when to lean into the accent of a thing, you know, especially when it's a person's name.

Well, when I was in Nicaragua, we always found it best to...

Don't you love that one?

Oh, my God.

Well, look, that very thing ended one of my longest relationships.

I won't use her name because I think she might listen to the podcast, but things were going

great for a couple of years.

And then we found ourselves in a restaurant down in Little Italy in Baltimore.

I think it was Danitties, maybe Sabatinos.

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