Welcome to episode number 291 of the way I heard it.

And just like that, another year is behind us.

My guest on this very special episode is the one and only Peggy Row.

And it's entitled, America's Grandmother is done with Christmas cards.

She is.

Because she is, Chuck.

She's done.

She's had it.

She's had it.

Last year, she had all kinds of treats she made and gave to people.

And this year, she's like, I don't have time for this.

Every time a Christmas card comes in the mail, she and John are like, ooh, we got another one.

Here's another one. What's wrong with people? For as long as I've known my mother,

she's been making Christmas treats and she sends out Christmas cards. And in this episode of

the podcast, I learn, among other things, that deep down, I think she's always hated it.

It seemed that way.

Yeah.

I just think that, you know, after decades and decades of doing this, she's entered into this phase of her life where she'll be 85 years old next month.

And she's busier than she's ever been.

And she's finally looked around and she's taken stock.

And she's seeing, she's seeing

some fat that could be trimmed from the daily realities of her life. In this time of year,

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