292: ‘Not the Batman We Want or Need’, With Rene Ritchie
The Talk Show With John Gruber
John Gruber
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🗓️ 20 August 2020
⏱️ 160 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Nothing going on this August. I don't know. It's like the worst DC universe movie ever and I'm just afraid what the Snyder cut's gonna be |
| 0:08.9 | What's going on with that thing? That's that's crazy, right? Is that nuts? I only following that loosely and it's like |
| 0:16.8 | I have I'm like the rare person like and I think that this is going to be the theme of the episode is that we're going to talk about a lot of things that |
| 0:24.4 | Have very polarizing opinion. Yeah, and Zack Snyder seems to be a very polarizing filmmaker and my take on Zack Snyder is sort of in the middle |
| 0:34.4 | Like I feel like I'm like the one fan of superhero movies who's like I guess I mostly like him, but I kind of see why you know he's |
| 0:42.7 | No, I think to me it highlights exactly what you said except |
| 0:46.3 | Everybody can be wrong is my takeaway. I think Twitter hates the idea that multiple people can be right and or wrong |
| 0:53.1 | They want clear cut, you know sides on everything, but I think justice league was a bad movie and I think this Snyder cut's gonna be a bad movie |
| 1:00.2 | I can't remember I honestly got this is the truth. I can't remember if I watch justice league |
| 1:06.4 | Like I liked the Superman movie. I didn't love it. I know still don't think I still think that the only good Superman movie ever made was Richard Donner's original Superman |
| 1:16.0 | Still think it was the only one |
| 1:18.9 | But I kind of liked moments of Zack Snyder's and you know, and it's like what a bold move just doing away with the theme music and going with a new one and it worked for me and I you know |
| 1:32.5 | Kind of liked the the feel of it which to me is often a lot more important |
| 1:37.1 | But then you know it's stuff falls apart. So anyway the whole thing with the the Zack Snyder cut of the movie is that |
| 1:43.7 | He's making justice league a couple years ago |
| 1:47.8 | Something happens in his personal life. I don't I don't always do things. They was like |
| 1:53.6 | uh, Dece the DC brass decided they didn't want him doing this anymore because his previous movies were doing so badly both |
| 2:00.1 | You know, not in terms of box office, but in terms of public reaction and then his father passed away |
| 2:05.5 | And they sort of used that as a way to move him aside in the middle of production who'd made the X the Avengers |
| 2:11.2 | Right, but that's in the middle of production. Yes, right. Yeah, or maybe more than pass the middle of production. Yes, it was before the reshoots |
| 2:19.2 | Right, and Joss Whedon isn't just |
| 2:22.6 | A director if anything he's better known as a writer. I mean, he's a filmmaker |
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