#292: Naomi Gibson Interview - Part Two

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True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

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🗓️ 13 January 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Laura, Jim and Lisa continue their interview with Naomi Gibson to hear her first hand account of what it was like inside the NXIVM cult. Naomi talks about being recruited by film maker Mark Vicente, who relentlessly pursued her to join “Jness” an offshoot of NXIVM. Naomi describes the celebrities and high powered people who were in the “Jness” circle, which added to the lure of the group.

You can also see Naomi in the STARZ documentary series “Seduced: Inside the NXVIM Cult”.

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime Members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile ad-free on Amazon Music, download
0:06.2	the app today.
0:08.0	Hey lovely listeners, we really want to thank you for tuning in once more to Real Crime Profile.
0:13.5	We couldn't do this show without you, so we really appreciate you tuning in and listening
0:18.0	to us.
0:19.2	This is now our second episode in the series with Naomi Gibson.
0:23.0	Naomi was so generous with her time and we really appreciate the time that she spent with
0:27.2	us and I also just wanted to give you a trigger warning and a heads up that these are not
0:31.8	easy subjects to discuss but they're really important conversations to have.
0:36.7	So without further ado, here's part two of our interview with Naomi Gibson.
0:43.2	This is what's always hard for people to understand how someone can get indoctrinated to that
0:47.6	degree but you're in a closed system and what I call a bounded reality.
0:52.9	A bounded reality where Reneerie radicalized his followers, his first step, separate
0:59.7	the men from the women.
1:01.7	Keith started Genes, which was a woman's group where they tell you that it was going to
1:06.2	help you be more successful in life, be more successful human being within yourself.
1:11.2	That's what I thought it was designed to do.
1:14.1	And what better way to do this than through celebrity?
1:18.5	His most prized recruit, Alison Mack.
1:22.2	Keith targeted Alison Mack because of her celebrity status because she's such a sweet looking
1:27.3	young girl who would not trust her and people have said this to me.
1:31.6	I joined because of Alison Mack.
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