My guest Amanda desperately wanted to get married and have a baby with her boyfriend,

and she was practicing the six intimacy skills with that outcome in mind.

But instead of stepping up, he broke up with her.

She was heartbroken, and at 41 years old, hopeless about having a baby.

But today, she's married to the man of her dreams and the father of

her baby. She's going to tell us how she did it so you can do it too. Amanda, welcome to the

Empowered Wife podcast. I'm really excited to get to hear your whole story today. Thank you, Laura.

I am thrilled to be here with you.

All right.

Let's go back to the bad old days.

What was happening for you?

Yeah.

The bad old days were a long, there was a long time bad old days, which isn't to say

that I was unhappy that whole time, but I had,

um, you know, as you said in your introduction, I was, I was in my 40s. When I, when I encountered

your work, I was already in my late 30s and I had wanted to be married for decades at that point. And I always ended up with

relationships that didn't kind of, didn't really go anywhere. And I was kind of like, what is going

on here? Why do I keep ending up in these non-starting relationships or I would meet someone to get

really excited about them and then I just wouldn't pan out the way that I wanted? And that is a

situation when I encountered your book through a friend of mine. I had been with the man of my dreams.

You know, he seemed just totally perfect for me and we really,

really clicked and he had broken up with me and he was at the point that I encountered your book,

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