#291 - Oxford Philosopher on BANNED Gnostic Bible, Jesus Christ & Wes Huff | Alex O'Connor

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🗓️ 8 April 2025

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SPONSORS: ZBiotics: https://zbiotics.com/JULIAN (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Alex O'Connor is a philosopher, international thought leader & host of the Cosmic Skeptic YouTube Channel. He is a graduate of St John's College, Oxford University. Over the past several years, Alex has delivered addresses across multiple continents as well as debated ethics, religion, and politics with the likes of Jordan Peterson, Douglas Murray, Destiny, Ben Shapiro & more. FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey GUEST LINKS - YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@CosmicSkeptic - IG: https://www.instagram.com/cosmicskeptic/?hl=en - X: https://x.com/CosmicSkeptic JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 0:00 - Intro 1:18 - Discovering Alex O’Connor, David Deutsch Simulation Theory 11:10 - God & Multiverse Coexistence Debate, Difficulty of Interested in Meaning of Life 18:40 - 2 Gods Theory, Gnosticism, “Good” Meaning 26:33 - Forbidden Gnostic Gospels, Marcion of Sinope Gnostic Biblical Cannon 33:33 - Council of Nicea vs Biblical Cannon, Gnostic Gospel of Thomas, Egypt Papyrus 41:39 - Gospel of Mark, Telephone Game Analogy, Sabbath Verse in Mark 2 Breakdown 58:28 - Role of Jesus Christ, John the Baptist Bizarre Anomalies 1:07:35 - Mark’s Gospel, John’s Gospel & Dating Speculation, Holy Spirit, Repenting Sins 1:28:02 - The 1 Unforgivable Sin, Heart of Christianity (100% Man & God Theory) 1:38:07 - Alex Debunks Wes Huff’s Debunk, Codex Sinaiticus & Vaticianus Long-Ending Debate 1:59:06 - Alex O’Connor’s View on Wes Huff, Billy Carson, Christian Commenters Hating 2:19:49 - Jesus Debates w/ Pharisees, New Tomb Discussion, Was Jesus Son of God 2:32:00 - Debating was Jesus God, Mistranslation in Bible Point (Jehovah Witness Screwup) 2:41:49 - John 17 Breakdown & Alex’s Angle 2:48:57 - Mandaeans & Essenes (John the Baptist Religious Group) 2:54:59 - Gospel of Judas, Gospel of Thomas Bizarre New Age Translation 3:14:33 - Q for Quell (Sayings Gospel), Discussing Punishments for Sins 3:18:21 - Gospel of Jesus Wife (Dead Sea Scrolls) Forgery Breakdowns, Mary Magdalene 3:29:33 - Alex’s Interests w/ Bible & Studying Bart Ehrman, Atheism, Ehrman Agnostic 3:40:43 - Fine-Tuning Argument 3:43:07 - Julian on how Alex thinks CREDITS: - Host & Producer: Julian Dorey - Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 291 - Alex O'Connor Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	In my estimation, the historical Jesus of Nazareth was a disciple of John the Baptist.
0:04.0	Jesus calls him the greatest man that's ever lived.
0:06.0	Like, who was he? Why is it that Jesus, God himself, according to Orthodox Christianity, would need to be baptized.
0:11.0	This is really strange. Christians will say only God can forgive sins.
0:14.0	What the hell is going on with John the Baptist then? Everyone's coming out to him for the forgiveness of sins.
0:18.0	It's a hugely significant figure with his own ministry. When they come and ask him, are you the Messiah? He says, I'm not the Messiah.
0:22.6	Emphasizes that Jesus is more important than he is, but I do find it a little bit suspicious
0:27.6	that John is teaching baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. What does that mean?
0:30.6	In biblical scholarship, for the past few hundred years, it's been mainstream to say that Jesus didn't actually claim to be God. If you read the ESV there, and I'm at the podium and I'm doing my debate, and I say, Jesus didn't claim to be God.
0:40.0	Because look, he said, now imagine my opponent gets up, he's saying Jesus did claim to be God.
0:44.0	Take a look at the English standard version. That translation, that one word, is crucial to
0:49.3	understanding the nature of Jesus and what he's claiming to be. So if you are ever reading the Bible, and either something jumps out at you,
0:55.2	you think it's important or interesting,
0:57.0	or definitely if it's confusing,
0:58.2	the first thing that you should always do.
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1:06.7	They're both a huge, huge help.
1:08.2	Thank you.
1:20.8	Alex O'Connor.
1:22.2	Thanks for stopping through last minute, man.
1:22.8	Of course.
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