Hey friends, Alisa Childers here and today we're going to talk about the Old Testament.

Rape, genocide, does the Bible condone these things?

Is the God that we find in the Old Testament nothing more than a capricious bully as atheists

like Richard Dawkins would have us believe?

So we're going to talk about on today's podcast.

Well I'm so thrilled to get to talk with today's guest, Dr. Paul Copan.

Paul is a theologian and analytic philosopher who has really just been such an influential

voice in my life, my own thinking, particularly his book, is God a moral monster.

It's one of those books that I just keep going back to and using as a reference.

He's written or edited over 25 books including a new one coming out in October called Origins,

the Ancient Impact and Modern Implications of Genesis 1 through 11, which is actually

one of my favorite sections of Scripture.

So I'm really looking forward to that.

He was the president of EPS which is the Evangelical Philosophical Society for six years and he's

a professor at the Palm Beach Atlantic University.

So Paul, it's so great to get to talk with you today.

Thank you, Elise.

It's great to be with you.

Well, one of the topics that you speak and write a lot about is the violence in the Old

Testament or how some people can read the Old Testament and then read the New Testament.

And it can seem like there are two different gods going on there that you've got the God

of the Old Testament that is angry and vindictive and then you've got the kind of meek and

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