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The Talk Show With John Gruber

288: ‘It Shouldn’t Be Hard to Get a Smoothie’ With Dan Frommer

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2020

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Dan Frommer returns to the show for more analysis of WWDC 2020, including App Clips and the Mac's transition to Apple silicon.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Dan from our good to have you back on the show. Thank you long time

0:04.3

Yeah, I feel like it. Yeah, Skype is telling me 10 months. I don't know if that's accurate. I think that's right

0:10.9

I know I do know I didn't see you last week. Oh my gosh. Yeah

0:18.2

What a strange yeah, what a strange thing

0:21.8

Let me jump right into it and talk about the keynote a little. I'm still not done talking about it

0:26.0

But here's a quote from your newsletter the new consumer

0:30.6

Talking about the actual keynote itself the presentation sort of the cinema. Here's a quote

0:35.3

Remember how oceans 11 felt faster and more modern than any heist movie before it that's what this was like

0:42.0

I love that synopsis of the keynote. I think that that and again you could say well

0:47.7

It's you know, they're trying to say electronic gadgets and operating systems. It's not as cool as ocean 11

0:53.8

It's the keynote equivalent though, you know, and it is it's just faster, you know

0:59.6

Yeah, and I

1:02.0

Guess like they couldn't do it that way if they were still pretending to be talking to a

1:09.4

Theater of what is it 6,000 people or something like that?

1:13.2

Yeah, I don't know because because they weren't and they knew they weren't they really kind of chopped out all the

1:20.7

crowd reaction parts and

1:23.4

You know, they were speaking straight into the camera instead of pretending to be speaking to a room

1:28.6

It really worked

1:31.2

Yeah, I thought it was really interesting

1:34.0

It was and I felt such a relief

1:39.2

as I read other

1:41.8

People's takes on it I listened to ATP's

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