287: ‘Patina of Usefulness’ With Matthew Panzarino
The Talk Show With John Gruber
John Gruber
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🗓️ 26 June 2020
⏱️ 80 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What a week. It's still Friday. I guess WDC is still going on, but I guess it's, you know, |
| 0:06.0 | it's officially sort of over in the sense of all that. |
| 0:09.0 | Friday's, yeah. Friday's normally the day. It's all rerun sessions at the show. And it's |
| 0:17.8 | normally the day where people start filtering out of town, you know, it's like the last, |
| 0:21.8 | like the Friday drinking crowd is quite a bit thinner than the Thursday night drinking |
| 0:25.1 | crowd. |
| 0:27.1 | I think I've gone home on Friday most of the last few years because my wife comes |
| 0:32.6 | with me now and she gets the shits of it a lot sooner. I always like like in the old days |
| 0:41.1 | when I would come out by myself. I actually liked the Friday night when like most, a lot of |
| 0:47.4 | people were gone or people left during the day and local Californians, you know, could |
| 0:51.6 | just drive or whatever. And then it was just like a nice quiet night in a dinner where |
| 0:56.0 | you didn't have to try to find, ooh, where can we find a table for 11? And it was like, |
| 1:02.6 | oh, this is nice. And then you could relax and go home on Saturday and it was normal. |
| 1:06.4 | But now we're all, I'm already home. Long journey back the other things that I was |
| 1:16.8 | grossly wrong about is I thought, well, since this will be remote and I'll be at home |
| 1:21.8 | the whole time, even if I'm busy and I have a show and I did have a show and it did occupy |
| 1:27.7 | some time. I thought, well, this year I'll get to watch a lot of the sessions during the |
| 1:31.9 | week. I have watched no sessions. Yeah. The only sessions I've watched are clips on Twitter. |
| 1:39.9 | And I thought the same thing and it's not only did I not get to watch sessions, I felt |
| 1:44.4 | this was way more hectic than it was actually being there. Yeah. Yeah. I thought the same |
| 1:51.0 | thing too. At a very high level, I would just like to start with the App Store stuff |
| 1:58.7 | because it broke before WWDC and you and this is why I thought, well, let's talk to old |
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