It's a way to have decision-making conversation with language that feels really light

so that no one ever feels like top down to or decided for. Let It Out.

Let It Out.

Hi, Pals. Welcome to another episode of Let It Out. Hello from Bali. I'm still here for a couple more weeks by myself. But the first week that I was here started out as a vacation. Pretty much the first vacation I've ever taken as an adult where I fully stopped working and I just leaned into the place that I was in and did touristy things and

rested. I was able to do that because of today's guests. I was with other people and not just

any other people. I was with two of the most joyful and not just full of joy, but just the two most emotionally healthy people I think I've ever met. Natalie Roy and Kristen Henge are just two, as Lacey Phillips puts it, expanders of mine.

I admire them so much.

They're the creators of the Create podcast, which is a podcast that you should run to and

definitely listen to.

I've been a guest on it before.

Kristen's a prolific director.

She has been on the podcast before.

Actually, that's how we met.

I interviewed her along

with actress and writer Maddie Corman about a show that she directed of Maddie's called

Accidentally Brave, which is such a meaningful piece of art to me. And that's how we met. So go back

and listen to that episode if you haven't already. And then Natalie is an actress and an acting teacher and Kristen's

best friend who I met through Kristen. And the two of them and their relationship just

endlessly inspires me, which you'll hear about in this episode. We also get into some of their

Kristen and Natalieisms, which one of them is just for knowing is a thing

that they say to each other, which we'll get into.

And there's more of them.

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