What really tends to cause leaders to stall is not challenges of complexity, but challenges of sophistication.

And what this requires ultimately is not that the leader change their organization, but that they reinvent themselves.

Helping business leaders grow themselves, their team, and their profits.

This is Entrail Leadership.

Now, here's your host, Ken Colman.

Coming to you from the music city, this is the broadcast of leaders by leaders for leaders.

Thank you so much for joining the conversation.

Here's what's coming up. We're going to start off with John Hillen, who is the author of what happens now.

Reinvent yourself as a leader before your business outruns you.

John understands this subject. He is a former assistant secretary of state for political military affairs.

So understanding this, not just from a pure leadership standpoint, but also military structure.

Then you're going to hear from Daniel Tarty and Sarah Sloyen.

Daniel Tarty is our senior vice president of leadership here at Ramsey Solutions and Sarah Sloyen is the vice president of Entrail Leadership.

But first, we have a request. We would love for you to leave a review in the podcast format or the app that you're using.

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All right, let's get right to it. Here is my conversation with John Hillen.

I love that you've got seven stalls.

This book is about seven stalls that every leader will face, not might face.

You and your co-author say, you're going to face these stalls.

And I absolutely believe it's true. I think it's wonderful.

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