Hello, Winebers, my name is Jesse Meekum, and this is podcast number 284 for Winem,

where we teach you four rules to help you stop living paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt and save

more money.

I've been listening to a very interesting book as of late called The Rational Optimist, and they don't remember who recommended it to me but I'm

loving him. One little tidbit that he mentioned he said something on the lines of

I don't remember the other's name, my word, I should have prepped better,

something along the lines of we are wired to acquire, like our lizard brain, we're just, we're wired to amass things.

We know that at any point all of our resources could run out and we want to stockpile.

And if we see something really fatty, we want to eat it. If we see a lot of sugar, we want to eat it.

Because we never know when our next meal will arrive, right?

So we're kind of wired to acquire.

And I have examined my own behavior since listening to that little phrase and it's absolutely true.

You can go through efforts to declutter, to be more of a minimalist, travel light so to speak just to consume less and

that's all great but you'll notice that people that really do that well

that really push hard, push back against, well they are, they're pushing back against the

tendency for us all to just,

surely, you know, oh so slowly.

Not a lot, not crazy, just, you know,

oh so slowly.

So where you look in your house after five or six years of living there

and you realize you've amassed quite a bit of stuff.

And you didn't have that stuff before and everything seemed fine, but now you have it and it's

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