Many times victims will come forward and report when they see someone else being victimized.

Because I remember her sitting at one point, I went there to get help and I came out works.

That stuck with me.

You've got a woman who is a self-admitted drug addict and a self-admitted prostitute

and a jury is already predisposed not to believe her.

Hello and welcome to Best Case Worse case.

This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profile, a former New York City prosecutor,

and writer-producer of CBS's Criminal Minds.

And with me today is...

Hi everybody, it's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor Jim.

Here we are again, back with Matt, and I am just thrilled, beyond thrilled,

to have one of our absolute favorite guests and a fellow Georgian back on my face.

Favorite Georgian, I think we decided, right?

Yeah, well...

Our favorite Georgian.

Well, I'm not sure.

I don't know if I can say he's my favorite Georgian.

My whole family lives here.

Well, he's my favorite Georgian.

He's my favorite Georgian investigator, which is about to offend all the other investigators I've ever worked with.

But still, they're not on the podcast.

Go ahead, Kevin.

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